Wednesday, February 01, 2006

Seton Hall Update


Seton Hall goes for its 4th straight win tonight against Providence at the Dunkin Donuts Center. The Pirates are more or less where I thought they would be at the beginning of the season. At 12-6, 3-3, the Pirates have lost two games they should have won (Northwestern and Marquette) and lost two important "swing" games that they needed to win to have any realistic shot at the NCAA Tournament this year (@Richmond and @Rutgers). In fairness, Marquette is a lot better than I thought at the beginning of the season, but the Hall should still have come away with a win at home against a very young Golden Eagles team. On the bright side, the Pirates won two road games I thought they would certainly lose; the thumping of N.C. State and the "miracle on hardwood" at the Carrier Dome, where, as the clock ticked down in the second half, Seton Hall actually had more turnovers than field goals. So, they didn't get here exactly the way I foresaw, but here they are, nonetheless. So what is in store for the boys from South Orange?

First of all, let's not get delusional, at least not right away. The NCAA Tournament is still pretty much out of reach. The Big East Tournament and the NIT are not. Three more wins would insure the Hall of no worse than a 15-13 overall record (not including a possible Big East Tournament game). That should be good enough for the NIT and the boys certainly have three more wins on the schedule, it they don't completely fall apart (see 44-42 home loss to Northwestern). They may even win three more games by Thursday of next week. Qualifying for the Big East Tournament will be tougher. The Hall has games against UConn, West Virginia, and Pitt, all teams that are now playing only to determine their seedings in the Big East and NCAA Tournaments. They gobble up small fries like Seton Hall and spit them out as RPI power rankings. They have games against Rutgers, St. John's, and Cincinatti, all of which are similarly situated with the Pirates in the standings and are fighting for their post-season lives. Then there are four games against Big East bottom feeders Notre Dame, Providence, DePaul, and South Florida. However, Providence and South Florida are on the road, and ND and DePaul have both scored big upsets this year. Realistically, I can see the Hall winning 5 of these games, finishing 8-8 in the Big East, and qualifying for the Big East Tournament.

Now, lets put aside reason and accountability. In other words, think like a Mets fan. Let's say the Hall wins their next three games (@Providence, Rutgers, @S. Florida). These are games they should win, so let's go with that. At 15-6, 6-3, they will be poised to make a legitimate run at an NCAA Tournament bid. They don't have to beat UConn or W.Va., but they will have to look good trying (see, by contrast, 93-40 loss to Duke). They next will need to win three of their remaining 5 games (ND, St. John, DePaul, Cincinatti, Pitt). At 18-10, 10-6, they would be firmly on the bubble. A win in the Big East Tournament would seal the deal. It is, in some respects, plausible. What is not plausible is that this team could win 9 of their final 13 games, which is what they will have done if they accomplish this. Toto, we're not in South Orange any more.

Reality Check: In the best case scenario, the Pirates will finish 17-11, 8-8; first round loss in the Big East Tournament, first round loss in the NIT. The worst case scenario would be, well, worse.

12 Comments:

At 3:56 PM, February 01, 2006, Blogger Mookie McFly whispered...

Who cares, I think they will make the tournament with a good showing at the end...plus other teams aren't going to be playing for position. I'm more interested in the St. Peter's Peacocks who could very well stun everyone in the albeit less inpressive MAAC conference. I want to see three MAAC teams again in the tournament before I die...and possibly another win in the tournament. Let's see a strong finish from Kee Kee and another scoring title to boot! Three in a row would be nothing to sneeze at...hell, two ain't bad.

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At 4:03 PM, February 01, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous whispered...

please note, the gadfly is, you guessed it, a mets fan...

 
At 4:56 PM, February 01, 2006, Blogger Mookie McFly whispered...

...and not evil in any way.

 
At 10:02 PM, February 01, 2006, Blogger thejerseydevil whispered...

just watch out for that evil DUKE fan thats is waiting for his team to win it all!

 
At 10:06 PM, February 01, 2006, Blogger Mookie McFly whispered...

Check it out. SHU won...maybe Mets fans know what they're talking aboot, eh ya hoser. Anyhew, St.Peter's at Marist tomorrow night. Be there of B-Squared?

http://www.spc.edu/athletics/broadcast_schedule.php

 
At 11:04 PM, February 01, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous whispered...

i expected the hall to win, and still stand by everything i originally said. i want them to win every game, and at some fantasy-land level, believe they can, but when i sober up, realistic expectations kick in...

 
At 11:58 PM, February 01, 2006, Blogger Mookie McFly whispered...

Don't give in to the Dark Side...ya gotta believe. Remember?

 
At 1:29 AM, February 02, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous whispered...

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At 1:49 AM, February 02, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous whispered...

I had to rethink and repost. Talk about dark side, where was the foul on that BC lay-up at the end of the Duke v. BC game. The fix is in! That is fine with me. I want BC to suffer for their betrayal of the Big East. I want their pious, intellectual president to rue the day he claimed that the ACC schools were academically superior to those of the Big East; a bald-faced lie to be sure. Not that Seton Hall is on the verge of the Ivy League, but it is a decent school, and Georgetown, Rutgers, Villanova, and Pitt are the equal of anything the ACC has to offer. In ACC football news, Miami lost a top QB prospect to Penn State. Welcome to football mediocrity Miami. I hope the president of BC is happy with the academic credentials of his fellow ACC institutions, because his sports programs will be the doormats of that league. Hmmm....G'town beats Duke, SHU beats NC State. GO BIG EAST!!!

 
At 2:05 AM, February 02, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous whispered...

shite! i forgot to mention that the Big East is what turned Boston College, which had been a fair-to-middling, parochial school, into a national college. and the nerve of them, slandering other Catholic schools, and in the case of Georgetown, another Jesuit school, in the name of shameless self-promotion. May it all be shoved right up yer collective arse!

 
At 8:23 AM, February 02, 2006, Blogger thejerseydevil whispered...

you guys are very excited and the damn March Madness hasnt even started yet...give it 30 days and then you can pick sides....or is that too close to reality

 
At 10:01 AM, February 02, 2006, Blogger Mookie McFly whispered...

I agree with the foul call at the end because he really only got him a little with the body...they weren't calling touch foulds all game. BC got away with some fouls during the game. It was a good game. Redick is the best player in NCAA B ball...that's why Duke won.

 

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